Iron Ore Index Dive: Can We Expect a Quick Rebound to $116-$118? Hao Pei Reveals All!
Hello and welcome back to Freight Up, the number 1 commodities and freight markets podcast from FIS.
I'm your host, Fernanda and in this episode of Freight Up, I'm joined again by Davide, the newest member of the "Freight Up" team.
Cape Size Surge and Iron Ore Market:
The episode highlights the significant surge in Cape Size index and its impact on the FFA market.
Hao Pei provided valuable insights on the iron ore market, discussing China's recent policy updates and their implications.
Dry Freight Market Movements:
Ben Klang discussed the movements in the dry freight market, providing detailed insights into the Cape FFA market and its impact on the wider market.
He elaborates on the increasing physical activity in the Pacific and steady rates in the Atlantic region, along with the high demand for the c five iron ore route.
Ben's analysis highlighted the strong volumes and trading activities in the Cape, Panamax, and Supermax vessels, offering a comprehensive overview of the dry freight market.
OPEC's Extended Cuts and Fuel Oil Market:
Archie Smith provides a hot take on OPEC's extended cuts and the future of Brent crude prices.
He sheds light on the impact of Russia's decision to cut a further almost 500,000 barrels a day in production and exports in Q2, which surprised the market.
Archie's analysis suggests that mere cuts might not be sufficient to reach the $100 per barrel mark, emphasising the potential influence of geopolitical tensions.
Additionally, he discusses the volatility in low sulphur fuel oil cracks and spreads, offering valuable insights into the fuel oil market.
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Timestamps
00:00 Big conference discussing stimulus and government policies.
06:25 Cape FFA market sees fluctuating rates.
07:52 Week's maritime markets saw mixed performance.
13:49 Monday morning saw significant swings in cracks.
14:44 Oil prices fall due to lower settlements.
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The iron ore index took quite the dive, but can we expect a quick rebound
Speaker:from its current position at $116 to
Speaker:$118? How pay has a hot take for you.
Speaker:On the freight side, we take a look at the Cape sizes surge and its
Speaker:much felt ripple across the FFA market. Don't miss out on the
Speaker:Pacific's rising tides and the Atlantic steady currents.
Speaker:If that's not enough, Archie Smith delves into OPEC's extended
Speaker:cuts and the future of Brent crude prices. All this and more on
Speaker:freight up. Freight up.
Speaker:Hello and welcome back to freight up. My name fis Fernanda and I'll be your
Speaker:host as we navigate the seas of great commodities. I'm joined once again
Speaker:by Davide. Ciao, Davide Comastai. Ciao, Fernanda.
Speaker:I'm doing great. How are you today? Doing real well. What do you got on
Speaker:the money for us? We have our usual roundup of the latest
Speaker:commodity and macronews, and then I was thinking of a three course deal with
Speaker:Haupei on iron ore bank, lang on dry freight and
Speaker:Archie on fuel oil. What does it look like? Sounds filling. Let's get
Speaker:into it then. So first this
Speaker:week, let's take a quick look at the commodity
Speaker:news. The OPEC plus members have extended their voluntary cuts
Speaker:to oil production until the end of June, as it was announced
Speaker:by the Saudi Arabia state agency. By the way, if you'd like to know
Speaker:more about it, don't miss our latest article on
Speaker:LinkedIn. This week we saw a series of preliminary estimates
Speaker:for inflation in Europe. The rates slowed to 2.9% in
Speaker:February from 3.1 in January in France, dropped to
Speaker:2.5 from 2.9 in Germany, and remained stable
Speaker:at 0.8 in Italy, which should be a happy thing for
Speaker:Davide. In other news, the International Energy Agency
Speaker:said in its latest report that the world's carbon dioxide emissions from
Speaker:energy rose substantially to new records in 2023,
Speaker:37.4 billion tons, despite the
Speaker:decrease of use in fossil fuels.
Speaker:So before we get into the detail of our major commodity
Speaker:markets, let's take a look at the broad market movements of the week,
Speaker:which are quite positive. On the freight side, we've seen some big movements
Speaker:in the Cape size index again. They went up like
Speaker:29% week on week from Tuesday the 27 February to
Speaker:Tuesday the 5 March, after a similar rise up last week,
Speaker:which has also led the smaller ships. And they all moved up. So Panamax
Speaker:five TC index went up just over $2,000 a day, week
Speaker:on week. Supramax ten TC index went up
Speaker:6.4% or $854 and the
Speaker:handy size 70 c went up 13% or
Speaker:$13,599 a day.
Speaker:And now let's talk about iron ore with Hao Pay. So how
Speaker:the big headline this week was China's polite borough conference on Monday
Speaker:and Tuesday. What Ferris news if any came out. Of it,
Speaker:it was a big conference. Since all of our brokers is asking
Speaker:like what was the update for the conference today and what was
Speaker:yesterday? It's really big event. There should be some coming
Speaker:out in late this week as well and the original policy
Speaker:probably coming in the next two weeks. I mean the more
Speaker:details of the policies we only get more
Speaker:of headlines and the government reports during
Speaker:this afternoon. I think the biggest stimulus including a
Speaker:decreasing on a five year length loan, prime rate in
Speaker:February and many housing loans cut in January.
Speaker:So there could be some more policies coming, but no
Speaker:surprises. To be honest, the government report set the
Speaker:same GDP growth target and the same deficit
Speaker:ratio. And because 2023
Speaker:the last year Hao already set everything into
Speaker:extreme high and extreme high liquidity to
Speaker:boost its economy, the only surprise was the government is going to
Speaker:issue 1 trillion yuan or
Speaker:$139,000,000,000 of the
Speaker:ultra loan specialized bonds to support the economy.
Speaker:That's what happened during this year in the next three quarters.
Speaker:So that's the big headline. That's quite the surprise
Speaker:considering that when we spoke last week the iron ore index was
Speaker:wallowing at about 116 118. In light of
Speaker:this, do you think we can expect a rebound from here? Yeah, I think
Speaker:unlike the surprising events is rolling on, but
Speaker:the index was quite boring during the past week. Well in
Speaker:short run I think we are at least stabilized here.
Speaker:That's the good news. Iron ore is getting out of biggest
Speaker:trouble like eyeing 20% index drop
Speaker:and eyeing some recovery on construction sites and the
Speaker:production of steels created the fastest single week growth
Speaker:over the past five months last week and we also
Speaker:expecting production is going fast this week as
Speaker:well. The data is coming out tomorrow afternoon. And
Speaker:however in general seasonal wise I think the pick iron
Speaker:production is and average 1% at least lower than
Speaker:the past January and February and
Speaker:more. The port inventories are
Speaker:increasing faster than any of the February deliveries
Speaker:expected to pick up in March. Those are bad news to
Speaker:create resistance in mid run and however in short
Speaker:run we saw some improving margins on both derivative side
Speaker:and physical side and it should be a trend which should
Speaker:support iron ore in short run. So in general I hold a
Speaker:stabilization view on iron ore in short Run. However so
Speaker:far in mid run, iron ore is overvalued at even
Speaker:this level, and index number shouldn't be the lowest
Speaker:of the year at the current level. Well, it sounds like we're in for
Speaker:quite a ride, but luckily we have you to keep us informed.
Speaker:Hal, thank you so much for your time this week, and we'll see you next
Speaker:time. Thank you, Fernanda.
Speaker:And now let's talk about dry freight with Ben Klang. Hi,
Speaker:Ben. How are you doing? Very well, thank you. Thank you very much.
Speaker:Glad to have you back again on the show. So, Ben, we've seen
Speaker:another good movement up on the indexes and especially on the Cape
Speaker:size. So how has this fed through the wider
Speaker:market? Yes, exactly. Well, you know, if we first take a
Speaker:look at the Cape FFA market, we saw increasing
Speaker:physical activity in the Pacific alongside steady
Speaker:rates in the atlantic region for both transatlantic and
Speaker:frontal business. This pushed the TC spot rate towards
Speaker:the 35,000 mark. And we also saw high
Speaker:demand was evidenced on the key c five iron ore
Speaker:route from West Australia to China, with
Speaker:rates lifting to over $12 for the end of
Speaker:March. As the week progressed and 1490
Speaker:reported on Monday, the Cape FFA market
Speaker:began the week with a sell off, with early trades in March at
Speaker:28,020
Speaker:7750, before gapping down to
Speaker:$27,000, where good volume changed
Speaker:hand. Midweek, we saw reverse in this trend with good
Speaker:movements up across the curb, March moving up to
Speaker:30,300, while Cal 25
Speaker:traded up to 22,000 on Wednesday.
Speaker:Early morning rates on Tuesday, we saw the market
Speaker:gap up, with March and Q two trading up to
Speaker:31,750 and
Speaker:31,500. And notably, Cal
Speaker:25 traded of 85 days per
Speaker:month at $22,000. On Friday, we
Speaker:saw Q two paid at 30 and a half, with March
Speaker:eventually getting to a high of
Speaker:35,000. And if we look at the Panamax
Speaker:vessel, the week began on a softer note but was quickly
Speaker:lifted by a firm Cape market and rising FFA
Speaker:prices. In Atlantic, a healthy level of minerals and
Speaker:grain trade continued to provide some support. And
Speaker:on the coal front, demand again proved to be strong last week with
Speaker:higher cargo volumes out of Australia and Indonesia
Speaker:and on the Panamax FFA, which has been range bound
Speaker:trading lately. The week began with initial bid support
Speaker:being tested, with March printing at
Speaker:15,350 down to 15 and a
Speaker:quarter, and Q two at
Speaker:16,750. With the index moving into the
Speaker:green through the week, this helped to bring some positive moves to the
Speaker:market. We saw good support across the curve
Speaker:to close the week, pushing the Cape
Speaker:move. March printed 16,600 and
Speaker:Q two printed up to 18,100 Monday.
Speaker:This week open with good sizes. March printed at
Speaker:17,000 and a quarter and Q two traded up to
Speaker:19,000. The evening saw March traded down
Speaker:to 16,650 and Q two
Speaker:closed trading at 18,300. And on
Speaker:the supermax, where it's similar to the Panamaxes with
Speaker:range bound trading with rates gradually slipping before
Speaker:being bid up midweek. Tuesday we saw March trade up
Speaker:to
Speaker:while Q two traded up to 16,000. We
Speaker:did see some post index offer pressure on
Speaker:Thursday, with front contracts off around
Speaker:$1,000 before an end of the week recovery that
Speaker:continued this week. As with both capes and Panamaxes,
Speaker:we saw another cooling off on trading yesterday. Thank you,
Speaker:Ben. And what about volumes? So we have reported a high on the year last
Speaker:week. So how's the last week gone? Well, once again,
Speaker:Cape took the spotlight in last week's trading, with trading
Speaker:volume reaching over 9100
Speaker:days per day compared to
Speaker:5300 days for Panamaxes and
Speaker:1600 days for supermaxes. As
Speaker:February jewelry too close, we noticed a massive volume
Speaker:increase in the c five voyage route amid
Speaker:growing interest from market participants, especially from
Speaker:ship owners and operator side. C five
Speaker:volume hit a record high of 24,320
Speaker:lots or 24.35 million
Speaker:tons equivalent into February and
Speaker:35,195 lots or
Speaker:36,000.195
Speaker:million tons in the past two months, which is up
Speaker:104.8% month on month
Speaker:and 122% year on year
Speaker:respectively. Ben, thank you very much for your update. And
Speaker:ladies and gentlemen, if you want to get in touch with Ben in Copenhagen, just
Speaker:shoot him an email at benk@freightinvestor.com Ben Lang, ladies
Speaker:and gentlemen, thank you. Thank you very much.
Speaker:And now let's talk to your loyal with Archie Smith.
Speaker:Archie, you're alive. I'm alive,
Speaker:yes, survived. You made it past last week.
Speaker:There's quite a few things going on in your world that we need you to
Speaker:tell us about. So we recently learned that OPEC plus cuts
Speaker:will continue until the end of June. Brent crude prices are rising,
Speaker:but much to Saudi Arabia should grant, analysts believe that it's not going to reach
Speaker:the $100 a barrel bar. What's your hot take on this?
Speaker:Yeah, I mean, the cuts getting extended by OPEC
Speaker:were very expected by the market. So
Speaker:for that to have a major impact on prices was a bit of a stretch.
Speaker:I think what came as more of a surprise was actually
Speaker:Russia have decided to cut a
Speaker:further almost 500,000 barrels a day in production and exports
Speaker:in Q two. I think that was the more kind of surprising thing that the
Speaker:market didn't expect as much. So that along with the
Speaker:geopolitical tensions, definitely has the potential
Speaker:to add support to the prices. I think the OPEC
Speaker:cuts on their own won't be enough because I mean, they've been
Speaker:cutting since summer last year. So it was kind of priced
Speaker:in, I would imagine, already by the market. And like I said, the
Speaker:Russian further cuts the exports. That was a surprise.
Speaker:And that's kind of helped to bolster prices and the kind of longevity of that.
Speaker:Well, I suppose time will tell with regards to the $100 per barrel
Speaker:mark. Yeah, I mean, my opinion is cuts
Speaker:alone won't be enough to hit that level. You're already seeing it
Speaker:from a lot of the investment banks and a lot of the kind of energy
Speaker:majors who release forecasts on the Brent
Speaker:crude for 2024. Some of them who were coming in above
Speaker:the $100 per barrel mark last year, kind of at
Speaker:each revision that's been reduced and reduced and reduced. And some of them are
Speaker:either on track to go sub 100 or already are sub 100, kind of around
Speaker:$90 per barrel mark 85, whatever it may be, depending on the
Speaker:bank or institution that you're looking at. So yeah, cuts
Speaker:alone for $100 per barrel mark. My opinion though, I think that's going to come
Speaker:more from an escalation in conflicts, wherever that may be,
Speaker:Russia, Ukraine or Middle East. I have another question for you, which
Speaker:is on the front, very low sulfur fuel oil cracks and
Speaker:spreads, which we've seen being more volatile than usual at the beginning of this
Speaker:week. Can you maybe tell us why this happened? Monday
Speaker:morning had some deal big swings in the
Speaker:cracks, particularly in the Singh window, which is the Singapore closing window,
Speaker:which is kind of morning time. Europe finishes around 830.
Speaker:It's normally about eight to 08:30 a.m. London time. This is
Speaker:when there is some real big volatility, which fis fairly
Speaker:usual in the Singapore window anyway, that's just kind of usual
Speaker:trading activity. This week in particular, what we were
Speaker:hearing from the market was that a particularly big
Speaker:asian player had got back on the bid side after quite a long
Speaker:hiatus. So they were coming back into the physical window buying
Speaker:fuel, and that was pushing the price up quite drastically.
Speaker:So the April crack got to about $15 per
Speaker:barrel, which is certainly a recent high,
Speaker:but it was swinging kind of 20 $0.15 during the window, and it
Speaker:has since the last couple of days, it has cooled right off. So we're actually
Speaker:a dollar down from that $15 high when I left my desk. It's trading around
Speaker:fourteen s. The reason we've kind of see it slip off the last couple of
Speaker:days is because the daily 0.5 Singh settlements
Speaker:have come in quite a lot lower than what the market expected, which has added
Speaker:quite a lot of downward pressure on the front month. That's the reason we've kind
Speaker:of seen it slip back. And on the topic of
Speaker:cracks, the high sulfur crack, we're looking at this time for Europe
Speaker:in particular, fis up about a dollar 50 on the week. And
Speaker:I think we could expect to see that climb higher as we go
Speaker:into the refinery maintenance season for Europe, which kind
Speaker:of starts march and runs through. I think, you know, with
Speaker:that ongoing, we could see that european high self creep even further
Speaker:up. All right, Archie. Well, thank you so much for that. And on
Speaker:behalf of all of your legions of fans, I
Speaker:thank you. Thank you very much. Good to be on the show again, and I'll
Speaker:see you next week. Well, that's it for us this week.
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