Iron ore has seen a sharp drop recently, and high sulphur fuel oil cracks have surged to levels not seen before—two standout moves that framed this episode of Freight Up.
Hi I’m Jess, and alongside Davide and the team, we walk you through what’s really driving these changes in dry bulk freight and associated commodity markets.
You'll get to listen in at how macroeconomic shifts, from British and Chinese output data to volatile US producer prices, ripple through to capesize, panamax, and supramax freight rates.
We pull apart the data to give you a snapshot of who’s gaining, who’s losing, and crucially, why those shifts matter for your business or your market view.
Ben Klang takes us through the past two weeks on the freight desk, describing how minor volatility in the cape market was quickly tempered as fixtures came through and macro tensions eased.
If you’re watching iron ore, we cover the steep pullback, tied less to headlines and more to solid fundamentals: declining pig iron output in China, seasonal maintenance, and looming Indian monsoon slowdowns. Hao Pei shares why these are seasonal and not panic-worthy moves, even if some investors have visions of iron ore dropping into the low $70s.
On oil and bunkers, Archie Smith delivers a concise summary: crude markets haven’t escaped their range, with all eyes on the upcoming OPEC meeting, while high sulphur fuel oil cracks—historically always negative—have broken into positive territory, even hitting plus $4 in Singapore.
Timestamped summary
00:00 China's Industrial Growth Slows
06:25 Capesize Market Challenges Persist
07:03 Capesize Cargo Volumes Rising
11:49 "Market Shifts Impact Iron Ore Demand"
14:59 OPEC Meeting and Crude Price Outlook
16:47 Record-High Crack Spread Highlights Trends
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Speaker:Hello and welcome back to freight up, FIS's freight and quality
Speaker:podcast. I'm Jess and together with Davide, we will be your hosts as we navigate
Speaker:the seas with freight and commodities. Hello. So today
Speaker:we will be hearing the latest freight update from our senior business executive
Speaker:Ben Klang. Hao BEI from Shanghai will tell us about what's going
Speaker:up and down in the iron ore market. And we will end with
Speaker:Archie's meet, which is back in the podcast booth with us that will give
Speaker:us his updates on the fuel oil market. But as per usual, let's start
Speaker:with the main macro news of the past two weeks.
Speaker:In the first quarter of the year, the British economy expanded by
Speaker:1.3% year on year, slightly below the 1.5%
Speaker:growth recorded in the previous quarter. Nonetheless, the result exceeded the
Speaker:market expectations of 1.2% increase, according to preliminary
Speaker:estimates. In the United States, producer prices fell
Speaker:by 0.5% in April following a revised flat reading in
Speaker:March. This unexpected drop defied market forecasts of
Speaker:0.2% rise and marked the first monthly decline in the
Speaker:producer price index since October 2023
Speaker:and the steepest since April 2020.
Speaker:Let's move now to China where the industrial Production rose by
Speaker:6.1% year on year in April, meeting the expectations of a
Speaker:5.5% gain. However, the pace slowed from March
Speaker:7.7% surge, which had been the fastest growth in the industrial
Speaker:output since June 2021. In Japan, the
Speaker:annual inflation rate held steady at 3.6% in April,
Speaker:unchanged from March. This remains the lowest level since
Speaker:December. And now let's have a look at the latest
Speaker:movements in the freight market.
Speaker:On the Cape front, we saw a small increase over the course of the past
Speaker:two weeks with the C5DC going from $14,354
Speaker:13 to 15,000 yesterday.
Speaker:Panamaxs have shared nearly $1,200 with
Speaker:the P5DC hitting
Speaker:$10,869 yesterday from
Speaker:$12,075 two weeks ago.
Speaker:Supramaxs haven't moved much. The S10TC
Speaker:went from $10,224 of two weeks ago to
Speaker:$10,271 yesterday. For the handy sizes,
Speaker:there were two good weeks as the HS7TC went
Speaker:from 9,978 DOL
Speaker:to $10,567 yesterday.
Speaker:I'm joined today by Ben Klang who will go through the freight market
Speaker:for the last two weeks. Ben, welcome. Thank you Jess.
Speaker:Great to be back on a more regular basis. It's good to have you back.
Speaker:So, since our last podcast, which was on May 14, it seems like the
Speaker:Capesize market has had a little bit of a drop. Can you walk us through
Speaker:what happened over the last two weeks? The Capesize market
Speaker:did see a slight drop since our last update. The
Speaker:May contract started at 15,500
Speaker:and it peaked at 16,300 on
Speaker:May 16. But then on the May 19, it
Speaker:hit a low at 15,001,50. And
Speaker:then as of yesterday, May 27, the market
Speaker:is hovering around 15, 3, 50 marks. So
Speaker:overall it's a bit of a decline, but
Speaker:it's been a relative flat with some fluctuations
Speaker:in between. Got it. So it's not a huge shift, more, a little
Speaker:decline. Yeah, exactly. It's not a massive drop, but it's
Speaker:definitely been moving in the wrong direction. We saw
Speaker:a bit more volatility early on in the reporting period.
Speaker:This was particularly due to the easing US China
Speaker:trades tension and some changes in the guinea
Speaker:bauxite mining regulations. But then things,
Speaker:you know, stabilized midweek as more fixtures started to
Speaker:come through. Okay, interesting. And what about the Panamax market? It sounds like that
Speaker:was also relatively stable, but you mentioned in your notes that there was also a
Speaker:slight decline. Yes, that's right. The Panamax market has been
Speaker:more or less flat, but there was a slight decline during the
Speaker:period. The May contract printed at 10,800
Speaker:on the May 14, peaked at
Speaker:11,800 on May 23
Speaker:and then fell back down to 10, 3,
Speaker:25 by May 27. So, yeah, bit
Speaker:of a drop, but again, not a huge change overall.
Speaker:So it sounds like the market has been holding its ground in the smaller
Speaker:vessel segments as well. So nothing particular to
Speaker:report here? Yeah, pretty much. The Panamax market
Speaker:was pretty stable in terms of activity, but the pressure is
Speaker:starting to mount. With an increase in the ballast vessels.
Speaker:We're seeing less demands from both the Atlantic and the Pacific.
Speaker:So that's putting some downwards pressure on the rates. Of course,
Speaker:not great news for the Panamax market. How about the Supermax market? Do we see
Speaker:a similar pattern here? The Supermax market has also experienced a
Speaker:slight decline, but it's been a smaller drop over this
Speaker:reporting period. The May contract dropped just over
Speaker:200 bucks. It hit a high of
Speaker:104 on May 15 and closed around
Speaker:102 to 5 on May 28. So
Speaker:overall a bit of a fall, but it's. It's been
Speaker:relatively stable compared to the larger vessel segments. Got it.
Speaker:So I noticed some news about Capesize Volatility especially in the
Speaker:first week of our reporting period. What was driving that?
Speaker:The volatility was mostly driven by two key factors
Speaker:easing US China trade tension that I mentioned
Speaker:before and the revocation of the bauxite
Speaker:mining licenses in Guinea. The bauxite situation in
Speaker:particular wiped out some of the gains made the week
Speaker:before and we saw a sharp sell off.
Speaker:But then sentiments improved midweek as more fixtures
Speaker:came through which helped to stabilize the market a bit.
Speaker:So it sounds like the Capesize market had a little bit of
Speaker:volatility there, not too much, but then recovered and things settled down.
Speaker:How did last week go? Well, in week two,
Speaker:things were still a bit challenging for the Capesize sector. Despite
Speaker:some slight improvements in fundamentals. The
Speaker:decline in bauxite exports from guinea offset the gains that we
Speaker:were seeing from the iron ore and the coal cargoes. Pacific
Speaker:activity remains strong, especially with expectations of higher
Speaker:iron ore flows from Australia, but there's still some caution in
Speaker:the market due to slower iron ore flows from
Speaker:Singapore and the China Holidays at the end of
Speaker:May. Right, so there's a few moving parts. Looking
Speaker:ahead, how does the Capesize market look? Yeah, looking
Speaker:ahead, Capesize cargo volumes are projected to increase
Speaker:for the fourth week in a row, reaching 22.8
Speaker:million tons. A big boost. It's expected in the first
Speaker:week of June when Australian miners push for
Speaker:volumes ahead of their financial year end.
Speaker:It's expected to jump to 33.5 million
Speaker:tonnes, which is obviously a huge increase. We should still
Speaker:be cautious because despite this surge, iron ore
Speaker:volumes may dip a little in week 22 due to
Speaker:the industry event in Singapore and the holiday in China.
Speaker:What about the Panamax outlook? Is there anything more positive there? It's a
Speaker:mixed bag for Panamax. We're expecting a slight recovery in
Speaker:shipments this week, up to 22.9 million ton.
Speaker:However, it's still below the recent averages. The good news is
Speaker:that the east coast South America grains are
Speaker:expected to rebound to 4.6 million
Speaker:ton and they could go up to 5.5 million tonnes
Speaker:in the week after. There's still pressure on the market with
Speaker:vessel supply continuing to rise, which could put a strain on
Speaker:these rates. All right, and then lastly, the Supermax market. What's
Speaker:the news there for the next week? Yeah, actually Supermax market
Speaker:looks a bit more promising this week. We're expecting a
Speaker:13% increase in demands with
Speaker:shipments rising to 19.5 million tonnes. Coal
Speaker:and mineral shipments are expected to drive this increase, you know.
Speaker:However, if you look at the supply side we're seeing a rise in
Speaker:available vessels with a number of Opus Supermax and Ultramax
Speaker:vessels rising from 1528 on May
Speaker:19th. So it's a bit of a balancing act. But you know,
Speaker:overall the near time outlook for Supermax looks pretty
Speaker:steady. Okay, so there's a bit of optimism there at least. Yes, it's a
Speaker:more balanced market. In the Supermax segment, the increase in demand is
Speaker:being matched by the increase of supply. So yeah, things are fairly
Speaker:stable. More in general for the
Speaker:shipping market, you know, I basically want to bring up something that I came
Speaker:across in Lloyd's List this week. It's a topic that
Speaker:obviously could massively reshape the shipping over the next decade.
Speaker:Okay, I'm guessing this is carbon taxes. Yes, you will
Speaker:be correct. I mean carbon pricing isn't so
Speaker:such a far off idea anymore. The EU is leading the
Speaker:drive, but it's emission trading system and the new
Speaker:fuel EU maritime rules. And
Speaker:of course from an environmental perspective this is of course
Speaker:necessary and well needed. But from a financial
Speaker:standpoint, this too. Are you
Speaker:expected to add over $6 billion
Speaker:in cost to the industry in 2025?
Speaker:So can you give me a bit of a breakdown on how that would affect
Speaker:shipping costs? For example, take a Panama ship
Speaker:running from Santos to Rotterdam. As is the
Speaker:example in the article, carbon costs jumps
Speaker:from under 50,000 in 2024
Speaker:to over 530,000 by 2030.
Speaker:For a VLCC on a long haul route
Speaker:like amongst it Singapore, the cost is even
Speaker:larger. More than 1.9 million
Speaker:in projected carbon costs by 2030. Yeah, and
Speaker:how are shipping companies meant to deal with this? You know,
Speaker:the more direct one is more fuel efficient vessels
Speaker:are gaining an edge. Older ones are struggling to
Speaker:compete. We're also seeing more dual fuel new build
Speaker:ordered. But the question is would cleaner fuel be available
Speaker:and affordable. But to be fair, you know the
Speaker:shipping industry tend to innovate itself under
Speaker:pressure. So hopefully this will in the long term
Speaker:lead to a more robust industry that is ready for the next
Speaker:generation. And with that in mind, I'm excited to say that Eric Hoffman
Speaker:from Engine will be joining the FIS masterclass next week
Speaker:and he'll go into this a little bit look at fuel oil in this new
Speaker:regulatory environment. But thanks for the breakdown Ben. That's useful going into
Speaker:it. Thank you very much Jess. Pleasure to be here.
Speaker:And now I'm joined by Hao Pei, our senior analyst in Shanghai. Hau, thank you
Speaker:very much for joining us. Thank you. So we have seen
Speaker:a huge drop in the Iron ore recently. Maybe you can tell us something more
Speaker:about the causes behind this drop. Well I think the huge
Speaker:drop this round was more related to the
Speaker:fundamental change of the market instead of the new Microsoft.
Speaker:Well I think the tariff friction from the
Speaker:last between US and Europe was fully digested because
Speaker:US reset an exemption period to European countries
Speaker:and there is no more European countries investigation
Speaker:on China steels or any other exporting skills.
Speaker:So I think that part was fine. But on the fundamental
Speaker:side, the pig iron production China had
Speaker:witnessed three consecutive weeks of decline. So this
Speaker:marginal change has let the investors worry
Speaker:about the marginal decrease on iron ore demand.
Speaker:And there are a lot of steel mills started to
Speaker:maintenance or cut their production recently
Speaker:ahead of the rainy season normally started in June and
Speaker:July and there will be monsoon weather in India
Speaker:so which means that India consumption could be lower
Speaker:at the same time with China. So I think both is going to
Speaker:give the fundamental markets a hit but from my
Speaker:standpoint I think those are just something that
Speaker:normally happen and it's seasonally, it's falling the
Speaker:fundamental figures so I think those should all fell into
Speaker:expectations. So I think the already known stuff
Speaker:has limited damage to the market normally I mean
Speaker:historically in the extreme case I would imagine iron
Speaker:ore could reach the low $10 from now
Speaker:but it's still like yeah, I think it's generally a few dollars
Speaker:probably the low of the year is going to be a few dollars
Speaker:lower than last year but nothing gonna change too much. I'm not that
Speaker:bearish to look at 70, 75 this year
Speaker:instead I'm still looking at 85 to 90 as a
Speaker:low of the year so far.
Speaker:And we also seen instead like a huge jump in the
Speaker:fob Australia coking coal on Friday what happened there?
Speaker:Some of the meals in India were trying to produce more
Speaker:steels before the monsoon comes by and normally
Speaker:somewhere in June it could last continuously through the
Speaker:summertime. So I think the demand becomes strong just
Speaker:this week or last week just for the current two weeks trying
Speaker:to pick up some stocks and productions of
Speaker:steels instead of lack of supply
Speaker:during the next few months. But there is no signals to
Speaker:see how this will be sustainable in the next few weeks
Speaker:because when there is really bad weather's coming by all the
Speaker:mills have to stop so but it supports the current market.
Speaker:Thank you very much Hao. Thank you David.
Speaker:And now back in the boat with us used to be called the people's
Speaker:broker actually it's been a while since we've used this terminology to
Speaker:Archie, thank you very much for joining us again. Pleasure. Always a pleasure.
Speaker:It's been a while. What's happening in the fuel oil markets? Well, to give a
Speaker:bit of a crude roundup initially, it's been pretty
Speaker:rangebound recently between sort of 63 and 66 in the
Speaker:Brent front month future. I think people are very much looking
Speaker:ahead to the OPEC meeting that's coming up. General consensus is that
Speaker:they're still going to go ahead with the increases to
Speaker:output which you know, naturally is pretty, pretty bearish crude.
Speaker:But you know, you could argue has this already been priced in? A few
Speaker:different reports say that there's a plan to increase the output by
Speaker:411,000 barrels per month there or thereabouts.
Speaker:Whether that's the exact sort of figure that comes through, whether that's the exact figure
Speaker:that physically ends up happening is another question. But yeah, I think it is sort
Speaker:of all eyes on OPEC meeting at the minute, sort of intraday. There, there's
Speaker:been, there's been fluctuations with Trump headlines and whatnot that,
Speaker:you know, we're still getting that. Obviously yesterday the moves were
Speaker:basis Trump saying, you know, potential more sanctions on Russia. So we're sort of
Speaker:seeing intraday moves purely sort of headline driven. But I think the main, the main
Speaker:factor to sort of look at to see if we can break out of this
Speaker:sort of 63 to 66 range at the moment. There's going to be this OPEC
Speaker:meeting that's coming up. And when it comes to
Speaker:high sulfur fuel oil, the cracks, I mean like they've been very high recently,
Speaker:correct? Me, yes. No, 100%. They've been
Speaker:historically record breaking high to be honest. So if we
Speaker:looked specifically the 380 crack, so the Singapore high
Speaker:sulfur fuel oil crack, as far as I'm aware from my time in the market,
Speaker:this has always been negative, always, always been a negative figure. Which means,
Speaker:which means effectively that the refinery is at a loss.
Speaker:You know, the crack is a refining margin. So if a refinery was
Speaker:to refine purely high sulfur fuel oil, that'd be
Speaker:at a loss. Obviously that's not how it works, you know, so it's often a
Speaker:byproduct of refining the cleaner fuels. But this is pretty much always in the
Speaker:negative. Well, it has always been in the negative, certainly in my time in the
Speaker:market. And it's traded as high as like positive four in the front
Speaker:month, this 380 crack. So it's been, yeah, sort of record breaking highs. I think
Speaker:it's sitting around the three dollar mark at the moment. So it has come off
Speaker:a little bit. You could put that down to obviously people expecting
Speaker:this injection of supply from opec. And OPEC crude is
Speaker:typically very sour, meaning it's higher sulfur content, which means
Speaker:often you get the more of that sort of high sulfur fuel oil as
Speaker:a byproduct when you're refining the sour. Crude doesn't have anything to do with
Speaker:the taste of the crude? No. Well, I mean try it if you want
Speaker:how much you can take because obviously, yeah, the American crude is sweet, so maybe
Speaker:that tastes a lot nicer. And then if you're looking at the European counterpart,
Speaker:the high sulfur barges crack that is still just
Speaker:about in the negative. It has traded parity a couple of times and might have
Speaker:even traded like positive 5 cents or something. But again, you know, record
Speaker:highs. It's hard to put a reason on it at
Speaker:the moment. Obviously we ask a lot of people in the market, nobody's got too
Speaker:much of a clear answer. We will have to wait and see a little bit
Speaker:what's going to happen with the OPEC meeting fundamentally. And then like
Speaker:of course the great question mark, which is what the, what Mr.
Speaker:Trump is going to say. Of course. Of course, yeah. As for
Speaker:the very low sulfur fuel or flat price that's sort of being moving around and
Speaker:seeing quite a lot of strength in the Rotterdam crack which is dragging the
Speaker:Rotterdam 0.5 fuel to higher prices. Single point five crack
Speaker:a little bit more sort of steady. But yeah, still as per usual
Speaker:sort of big intraday swings on the flat price due to the
Speaker:due to the crude movements. Thank you very much Archie for joining us. Thank you
Speaker:very much, mate. And that's it for this week. Make
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