How the US Election Impacts Freight and Commodity Markets
Welcome back to Freight Up, the premier podcast from Freight Investor Services where we dissect and explore the major movements and current developments in the freight and bulk commodity markets.
We're Jess and Davide, and we'll be your guides today as we delve into a special episode centered on the recent US Elections and their implications for our industry.
Joining us are experts Archie Smith, and Hao Pei, who will share their unique insights on how the election results might shift our markets.
By listening in today, you'll gain a deeper understanding of how the political landscape influences freight and commodity trading, ensuring you stay ahead of the curve.
In this episode, we'll kick things off with a comprehensive freight update.
From the latest news in the American job market to the latest index movements, we've got you covered.
As we transition to specific commodities, we take a closer look at how the US elections are likely affecting iron ore and fuel oil markets.
We learn the potential impacts, particularly focusing on dry bulk markets and how Trump's probable victory might reignite trade tensions with China, affecting grain and steel exports.
Hao connects the dots between geopolitical movements and China's proactive fiscal policies.
Finally, Archie examines how the election results are already causing ripples in the fuel oil market, shedding light on the immediate bearish impact on crude oil prices following Trump's rise and the longer-term implications of tariff impositions.
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Companies mentioned in this episode:
- Freight Investor Services
- Kaizen General Service
- FIS Live
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Freight up.
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Hello and welcome back to Freight up, the freight and Commodity
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podcast of Freight Investor Services.
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My name is Jess and together with Davide we will be your hosts
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as we navigate our major freight and bulk commodity markets.
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We have a special episode today as we will be focusing on the
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US Election.
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The people of the United States have cast their votes and
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we are waiting for the final results, but it seems that Donald
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Trump will take up residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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We have assembled our experts to discuss how the markets have been
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responding.
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So as always, we will begin with our freight update followed
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by insights from how pay on iron ore and arches meet on fuel
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oil.
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But as usual, let's first look at the latest news and index movements
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of the last two weeks.
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Before we get into it, Davide, I think we've got some Freight Investor
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Services news.
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Yes, it is also like American related as we are officially opening
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a new office in the heart of Manhattan.
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So it's going to be located at 1120 Avenue of the Americas and it
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also underscores the significance of the United States
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in the freight and commodity markets.
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And Janet Mirasol has been appointed Branch Manager and will
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oversee the new office operation.
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So this new office opening will strengthen the Freight Investor
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Services presence in the US Especially considering the context
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of heightened volatility in the freight market after the US Elections.
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And we'll integrate this office into our worldwide network
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and we will be able to offer a 24 hour client support and continue
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to improve our global footprint and provide continuous
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service for our customer base.
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Let's begin with the US economy.
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In October, the American economy added just 12 jobs, significantly
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lower than the downward revised 223 jobs added in September
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and well below forecasts of 113.
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This marks the lowest job growth since December 2020 when the
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economy lost 243 jobs.
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The unemployment rate remained steady at 4.1% in October, consistent
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with the three month low recorded in the previous month and
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in line with market expectations.
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Currently approximately 7 million individuals are unemployed
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in China.
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The Kaizen General Service hit 52 from previous 50.3 with market
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consensus of 50.5.
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The data is clear win for those who believe sentiment is turning
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in China.
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Now let's turn to the Eurozone.
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The GDP grew by 0.4% quarter on quarter in the three months leading
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up to September, representing the strongest growth rate in two
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years following a 0.2 increase in the second quarter.
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This figure also exceeds the forecast of a 0.2 according to the
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preliminary estimates on a year on year basis, the eurozone
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economy expanded by 0.9% in Q3, making its best performance since
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the first quarter of 2023.
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In terms of inflation, the annual rate for the euro area rose
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to 2% in October, up from 1.7% in September.
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This is the lowest since April 2021 and slightly above the forecast
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of 1.9% as reported by preliminary estimates from Eurostat.
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But what are the market movements of the last two weeks?
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Let's take a quick look.
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So let's start with the CAPE sizes.
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Last Tuesday the C5TC index experienced a dip, falling to $15
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from 16 of the October 22.
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However, it rebounded slightly to 16 yesterday.
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On the Panamax front, we observed the decline from $11
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on October 22 to $10 yesterday, showing minimal changes
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since last Tuesday.
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Let's have a look at the smaller ships.
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The S10TC reached $12 yesterday, making the end of a two
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week decline that began at $13 and the HS70C followed a
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similar trend, decreasing from 13 two weeks ago to 12 on
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the 29th and further down to $12 yesterday.
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Now let's have a look at what has happened in the dry FFA market.
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So can you talk me through the last movements of the week?
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Okay, so last week brought more stability compared to the volatile
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start to October, though rates did continue to decline across each
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vessel segment.
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Capes most of the movement happened early last week, while intraday
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ranges narrowed towards the end of the week.
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Monday saw minimal support with November holding around $17
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and Q1 trading down to $13.
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Tuesday brought in a bit more activity.
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It was particularly active on the spreads with November versus
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December trading from minus $2 to minus $2.
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A positive index shift spurred some buying interest that was up
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to $604 to $15 and that pushed November up to $18.
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By Wednesday, however, November had stepped back down to
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$17, a drop of $2 while December rose to 19.
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Low liquidity took over for the remainder of the week and November
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closed at $17 in a fairly narrow intraday trading range.
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And when it comes to the Panamax instead, like did we had
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like similar movements or not?
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Yeah, broadly speaking, I would say so.
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The rates flattened last week compared to recent weeks, but there
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was still a week on week decline.
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Monday saw resistance for November at $10, with December
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trading around $10.
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Much of the week's volume focused on Cal25, which traded between
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$11.
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However, Wednesday reversed some of Tuesday's gains, dropping
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November and December back down to $10 and $10 respectively.
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And Friday was quiet I guess due to the slowdown of the Singapore
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holidays on Thursday with November briefly touching lows of
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9 DOL before closing slightly higher at $9.
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December also bounced back slightly from the day's lows, ending
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at $10.
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Okay, jest.
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And what about Supermaxes?
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The downtrend persisted and demand remained weak across the Atlantic
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and Asian markets.
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Monday opened with an early weakness and November traded down
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to $12 by Wednesday.
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November and December we're trading at $12 and $12 respectively
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and closing at their day's lows.
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Friday began with November at $12, but softened further, ending
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the week at $12.
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And when it comes to the volumes, what happened last week,
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it was a.
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Relatively quiet week on the FFA market.
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Trading was impacted by that Singapore holiday and that resulted
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in weekly volumes drifting down to 57 lots.
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Cape and Panama contracts saw reduced activity with daily average
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volumes around 3 and 4 lots respectively.
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In contrast, the Supermax has actually gained some traction, averaging
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1 lots per day.
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The options market also experienced subdued activity with
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the Supermax options being the primary focus at 2 lots traded
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over the weekend.
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Trading on the key voyage route also remained active.
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The C5 route, which is the West Australia to China volumes reached
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4 million tons for November and December contracts.
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And the C3 route, which is Brazil to China, also saw steady
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trading with 235 tons cleared across November, December
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and Q2 contracts.
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Now let's talk about US elections.
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So this is a special dedicated to these landmark moment in the US
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history.
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So what is.
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What do you think that there's going to be the impacts of the US
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election into the freight of the into the freight industry?
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Well, when I wrote this last night, I thought we would come in
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this morning A little bit more unsure of the results.
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So I had a bit of a balanced picture, but it doesn't look to be
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going that way.
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I think it will most likely significantly impact the dry bulk
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market primarily because of the escalation of a trade war with
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China as what happened in 2016.
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So in Trump's last term, Chinese tariffs on US goods particularly
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impacted grain and steel exports which are key dry bulk cargoes.
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I was also reading up about the recent Geneva dry conference
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and there they just suggested that anti China policies are likely
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to continue regardless of that election outcome.
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Now we know it's going to be Trump that will probably lead to
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two quite distinct trading blocs.
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So one led by China, Russia and Iran and the other by U.S.
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europe and Latin America.
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I think we've been seeing some news about that coming in this morning
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as well.
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What the impact of those tariffs would be in Europe as it
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applies to us here in the uk.
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So should these blocks form, it kind of creates this less efficient
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trade routes which could lengthen shipping journeys which
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then potentially offsets trade slowdowns and rises the demand for
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dry bulk shipping.
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There could also be some other tariff induced inefficiencies which
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could raise freight freight prices by extending the supply chains.
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I think there's also another point about how Trump's policies
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would support US Coal that would benefit dry bulk carriers.
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I don't know what would happen then in return for the new renewable
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energy sources.
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Maybe we'll see less of a drive to decarbonization of shipping.
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This is definitely one of the topics that we will have to talk
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about more like in the, in the next episodes.
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Yeah, I think, I think that'll be something to do a bit more research
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on and come back with some solid points there for you guys.
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Absolutely.
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Well, thank you Jess.
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And as always I would like to remind all of our listeners that
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you can read also like some of the reports that our researchers
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are doing on our app FIS Live.
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We also recently launched a new version of the app which is completely
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different also from the point of view of the interface.
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So it's more user friendly.
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So in case you haven't tried it yet, we will recommend you giving
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it a try.
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You can go on our website FreightInvestorservice.com and then
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like there's a dedicated page where you can actually have a look
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there.
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Next we have Hao Pei, senior analyst from our Shanghai office.
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So how, how would you connect iron ore markets with the US Presidential
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election?
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Obviously this issue is one of the key macro headlines in the Market
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trading this week and even in the fourth quarter.
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And first, let's talk about the logical relationship.
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As we all know, the consequences of the blockchain before
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this week.
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According to the prediction curve of a lot of agencies including
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Poly Market and Cao Sheen, we felt that iron ore was always relatively
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strong when Trump's expected winning rate was relatively high.
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But why they why is this?
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Because I think because the market interprets that Trump will
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fulfill his promise and committed to resolving several major
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conflicts and laws in the world at present.
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So iron ore as iron ore is one of the commodity with the best liquidity,
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the rejection of geopolitical prices naturally supports the value
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of industrial products.
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And in addition, the Chinese government is preparing in advance
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for plans to increase to avoid treat barriers, including various
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recent fiscal policies.
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So if that happens, it will push the China government to introduce
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more fiscal stimuli to support the steel industry and other industries.
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So this is the other reason to support iron ore before the election
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day and what the market participants concerned with that
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since that Trump trading has happening couple of times before
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the election.
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So it might face some of the ticking gains effected during and
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after the election day which is actually happening today.
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And I think it's not excluded that if the expectation becomes reality,
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that's what I'm saying, the short term capital may withdraw from
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the previous trading.
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I think the biggest concern for the market right now is some
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of the traders said they are worried about tariffs coming back
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again.
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So I think just if we looking back to 2019, if there's a trade
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barrier in steel industries in particular and I think it will limit
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some of the steel exporters to export steels.
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So in other words the iron ore demand in long run can be significantly
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reduced.
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But in short term people are still like waiting for some big headlines
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from China government on the stimulus.
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So I think it's opposite logic on the trade.
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So are there any other factors that we should be keeping our eye
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on for iron ore at the moment in the long run?
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Towards the end of the year, on one hand there may be unconventional
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stimuli from China to stabilize GDP because it really set
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up a very high goal and they're left only a month and a half.
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And on the other hand, hot metal enters a downward cycle.
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So we need to keep an eye on the fundamental factors including
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the hot metal protections in China.
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And is there any huge change on inventory levels including and
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shipments as well.
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And we also need to keep an eye on if there's any solid strategies
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from China government including alternative way to resolve
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debt issues and more housing policies or revamping house projects,
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something like that.
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And moreover, and I think as the end of year approaches, winter
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storage will lock in still cries.
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So I think these two to three weeks may be the last period of major
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fluctuations of the year for entire ferrous complex.
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And entering December and January next year, I think Arnold
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may be less interesting compared to August, October and November,
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to be honest.
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Okay, well thank you very much.
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How I think there's a couple of things to keep our eyes there.
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The U.S.
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china trade war and how the Chinese stimulus could counteract
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that.
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Now let's talk about fuel oil with Archie's Meat.
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Let's start with the main and only topic I think for the day.
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So the US elections.
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So can you tell us about how the US elections have affected the
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market and what's the outcome?
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Yeah, sure.
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I mean, yeah, it's all been sort of very exciting watching it
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happen live.
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It's very much deemed a Trump victory at this point.
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I mean as we speak the final decision isn't out.
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But I'm sure as the listeners will be listening to this upon release,
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it's highly likely that the Trump victory will be confirmed given
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the current status.
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And yeah, I mean this has had a sort of direct impact on crude
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already.
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We've actually off about 2% on the day for the front month future,
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it's sort of trading well it stooped down to a $73 handle and
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I think it's around sort of mid 74s at the minute.
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Instant short term bearishness is predominantly just because of
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such a strong US dollar surge.
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So yeah, US dollar is really sort of backed the Trump victory.
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We've seen a massive rise in that.
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And obviously where all of the majority of commodities, crude being
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one of them, are traded in dollars, the stronger the dollar
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against its counterparts, the less buying power that holders of
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that foreign currency have.
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So that's often why we see an inverse relationship between US Dollar
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and US crude.
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This is why we're seeing what's happening right now with the
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crude coming off.
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There's a few arguments sort of looking at the longer term outlo
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in the sea.
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We know if it is a sort of Trump 2.0 situation, tariffs will
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be likely and tariffs on the most part are not good for global
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demand.
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Especially if he were to heavily tariff China.
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Obviously China are the world's biggest crude importer and
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China already in a sort of economic state of pretty poor demand
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given their history.
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So I think further tariffs and regulations on that could be bearish
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for oil.
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On the other Hand, we could see a bit of an uptick with perhaps
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more sanctioning.
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We know, we know Trump likes a few of those as well.
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We've seen them in the past.
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Maybe they were returning this.
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Yes.
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So could be heavier sanctions on Iranian oil or perhaps some introductions
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of some new sanctions.
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You know it is as I said, it is up in the air at the minute.
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But you know, just basis Trump's history.
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Yeah, it could be, could be bearish oil if those tariffs really
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sort of come into play.
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So if we see that happening again, I mean like it will be a little
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bit of a continuation of some of the policies that we've seen in
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the first Trump mandate.
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100%.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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And so and this morning as I say like we woke up with the news
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of course like coming from the US we woke up in Europe.
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So what about the fuel market?
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How did it feel this morning?
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How did the fuel market woke up?
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Fuel market is not something that would directly sort of react
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to this sort of news.
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Although overall, whether it's Trump related or not, fuel market
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has felt very strong this morning.
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Cracks rallying across the board.
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High sulfur and low sulfur spreads are pushing as well.
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And as those spreads are pushing, we are actually seeing from
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our side, we are seeing quite a lot of shipping guys who are selling
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into that rally to roll their positions.
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So yeah, some of our, some of our biggest sort of European shipping
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guys have been selling a few of the spreads to roll their exposure
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into the next month.
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And the east west as well.
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The high sulfur east west that's ticking up having been sort
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of having been negative territory last month at some points
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that's now trading around 8, 9 bucks in the positive territory.
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Meaning that once again the Singaporean stuff is trading at a
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premium to the European high sulfur fuel oil.
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But yeah, the fuel market feels firm, feels strong crude off
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on the day.
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Let's see where this result comes in and let's see what the market
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has to hold for all of us.
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Yeah, it will take a few days I'm sure, like also considering the
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last elections, but like probably the next.
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In the next episode when you will be back in the booth, we will
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have like a different, well, more of a firmer picture.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Thank you very much Archie, as usual.
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Thank you.
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